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This time on Chasing UFOs.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, they just really brought in the sky.

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For more than a century, there have been reports of strange objects

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in the skies over central Texas.

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I'm looking at it right here.

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Yeah, what is that thing?

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I don't know.

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But in January 2008, a mass sighting in the grasslands of central Texas

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set two towns on edge.

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The reality of the phenomenon is undeniable.

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Dozens of people report seeing strange lights moving in the sky.

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Some even describe an object up to a mile in length

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with bright, pulsating lights.

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James, I saw something so big that you could probably land an airplane on it.

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It was giant.

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Definitely wasn't an aircraft that we know of or any flares.

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Determined to find an explanation,

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Ryder, Ben and James travel to the Lone Star State to investigate the encounter.

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It looks almost like a saucer in the sky.

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Was it an optical illusion?

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Was it an airplane?

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Now that was one hell of a fly by it.

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Or was it something from another world?

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All we know is what we saw.

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But it is, I don't know.

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That looks like a f***ing flying saucer.

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What we have here is not any earthly craft.

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Did you see that?

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There's usually a more conventional explanation for unidentified things that people are seeing

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if you take the time to look for them.

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For the first time in my life, I'm caught believing that the possibility of UFOs is all too real.

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For me to be out here looking for evidence, this is it.

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This is what I live for. This is what I've been dreaming about.

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Oh my God!

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Wow! God!

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What is this?

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Alright guys, let me pull up our video to review.

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We're on our way to Stephenville, Texas to meet with a local police officer who says that he's captured video.

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That's similar to what dozens of people reported seeing on the night of January 8th, 2008.

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So you see there's a light pulsating. Looks like it's changing colors from pink to blue.

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It's something that you can't definitely say is terrestrial.

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One video is not going to convince me of anything.

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We need to go there, speak to Officer Gaten and see what really happened that night.

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The object was either craft with lights or the lights without a craft.

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I'm a little perplexed by this video. I can't tell if it's a single light or if it's a light attached to a much larger craft

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as many of the witnesses in Stephenville claim to have seen.

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So I want to find out from Leo R. Gaten what his opinion is on this video.

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He saw lights, but you know, did he have a frame of reference?

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Was he able to provide us a frame of reference?

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I mean, at this point, it's a good starting point to see if you can collect some more data about whatever it was he saw.

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I'm really interested in talking to the officer to see what it is he thinks he saw with his own eyes compared to the footage.

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Because the footage is really ambiguous. I don't have any sense for the angle of view, how high off the ground he thinks it was, how zoomed in the camera is,

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and all that stuff is really important to figuring out what this object is.

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I can't wait to grill this guy.

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Okay.

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I'm going to go in and I'm going to be bad cop. I need someone to be good cop.

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That's James.

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What are you going to be?

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Other bad cop?

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Ha ha ha ha.

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Hey, very nice to see you.

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Nice to see you James.

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Nice to meet you.

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Lee Roy Gaten, nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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So, Lee Roy, can you just tell us what you saw?

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I don't know what it is that I saw.

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I had been working in Stephenville. On my way home there was an alarm call.

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I was close so I decided, hey, I'll go ahead and show up.

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I got out of my car and leaned up against my hood. I saw an object towards the southwest sky.

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It was strange. Much, much larger than a star, but it was somewhat pulsating.

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I came up with a wall ideal of, hey, why don't I try to capture this object with my dashcam?

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After playing for several minutes with my camera, I was able to zoom in on this object.

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You can see it's like a ball of energy. It's just pulsating.

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Fluorescent, blue flashing lights. It was like a round, I'd say object, I don't even know what it was.

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How fast was it moving in this car?

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It was roughly, I mean, say a tear and it's moving.

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If it would have been a certain planet or a satellite, I would have thought that I'd have seen it again.

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And I looked, I mean, I'm telling you, I looked. I wanted to get some better video and we never did see it again.

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Have you talked to other officers that maybe have seen the similar thing?

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And I have. I've had actually several approach me.

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They saw something too.

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Two of them actually saw what they described as a craft.

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And they're very credible officers. I've worked with these officers. I mean, they're not rookies.

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I've had bankers, teachers, politicians that have told me, hey, we saw what we saw that night.

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I thought Leroy was really interesting. You know, here's a man that saw something and then ultimately tried to gather evidence.

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Yeah, keep in mind, you guys, it wasn't just Leroy Gaten that saw this. It was probably hundreds of witnesses throughout the Stephenville Dublin area.

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You know, I think a great idea would be to try to get as many stories from as many eyewitnesses as we can in one place.

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Absolutely. I mean, if we had the opportunity to get a lot of these witnesses together, maybe we could start to extract more details and then try and zero in on what it was they were seeing.

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In Dublin, we put the word out that we wanted to talk to people who shared this encounter, luckily in small towns or tends to travel fast.

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I've never done a town hall meeting before, so I'm a little apprehensive myself. Not too sure what to expect.

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And the more information that we get, the easier it'll be for us to determine what it is people are seeing.

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Thank you guys so much for coming. We have a really great turnout. We're so happy that you could come and share all your stories with us.

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We're here to really try to get down to the bottom of what happened here.

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My name is Aaron Ryder. People call me Ryder.

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My name is Ben McGee.

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My name is James Fox, and I'm dying to hear what you guys have to say.

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How many of you by show of hands have ever seen something in the sky that they couldn't explain?

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Wow. Substantial.

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Is there anyone that would like to share a story with us?

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I'm Lorie Smithscoe. It showed up about 9 o'clock and they literally put a show on for us.

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They were almost like they were doing Egyptian type patterns in the sky.

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I was coming home with my mom and she's like, do you see those lights?

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And these lights were flashy just moving real fast all over the place.

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And then another one slowly appeared.

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And another one slowly appeared. There was five glowing orange lights.

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I was looking up in the sky and there's these four really bright orange lights and they're really big.

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There's one there, there, there and there.

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And they just flashed like that for a few seconds.

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And then they just stopped and then I was gone.

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My name is Steve Allen. We saw it January the 8th.

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I have an airplane at Stephenville and I fly that area quite a bit.

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It had four sets of lights on it.

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Definitely wasn't an aircraft that we know of or any flares.

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It looked like to me it was about a half a mile wide and probably a mile long.

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We were sitting outside. I looked up and through the oak trees these really bright white flashing lights.

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The speed is unbelievable.

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There is not going from a point A to a point B.

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They move beyond speed that we comprehend as far as aircrafts that we have seen.

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I know it's not satellite. We've seen it.

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We've seen the International Space Station Flavor.

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We've seen jets. We've seen airplanes, small, large, military, helicopters, you name it.

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I can pretty much tell you yes, I know what that is.

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My name is Ricky Sorrell. I live here my whole life.

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First off I'd like to thank everybody for coming.

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When this happened to me I felt so alone.

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Now you walk in the room and so many people from around the community is here.

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It makes you feel good.

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I look up. This thing is so big. It's about 300 foot above me.

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I started looking to my left to see how far over it was at.

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And I couldn't see the edge.

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I didn't know what to think of this. I didn't believe in this.

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Never have been taught this.

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It's taken me a long time to come to grips with it.

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My name is Casey Simmons and it was about 8.35 that night.

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I still kind of get shaken up talking about it.

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Just for some reason I was opening my door and I just having to turn around and look back across the town, across the tree top.

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All of a sudden to the left I seen just a bright flash or something.

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It went 1, 2, 3. They came on in that order.

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Kind of like headlights on a car. They're just like perfectly round.

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And I caught just part of that on video.

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Why in the world?

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It's coming back. It's coming back.

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Oh, s***. Oh my god, we're new then.

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We're new then.

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My name is Casey Simmons.

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I still kind of get shaken up talking about it.

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Just for some reason I was opening my door and I just having to turn around and look back across the town, across the tree top.

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All of a sudden to the left I seen just a bright flash or something.

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It went 1, 2, 3. They came on in that order.

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I caught just part of that on video.

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During the town hall this guy Casey stands up and he actually has video that he wants to share with us in real time.

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And this is pretty exciting.

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Yeah, it kind of happens pretty quick right there.

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This is when I first walked down the stairs and I seen some in the corner of my head, my camera.

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Whoa, what the heck is that?

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That's incredible.

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That was directly over our house. I just happened to catch that.

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Casey shows this video and it's really weird.

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Are they making any sound or not at all? No.

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I mean you've got like eight lights stringing out and it's very similar to other encounters that people are saying they saw.

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Does that look familiar to you guys?

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This to me clearly states that hey man this is a hotbed for UFO activity and these people want answers.

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I have a little bit of a treat for you guys.

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It's a song that is associated with the mass sighting and it's actually called Heading Down to Texas to see the UFO by Danny and Harlan.

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So was Danny actually at the town hall meeting?

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They both were. I think it could be our theme song for this Texas investigation here. Get ready.

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Since the 2008 sighting Casey says he's seen tons of other strange lights in the sky.

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So we're going to meet him in a remote area where he's had the most recent sightings to try and capture some of that activity ourselves.

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Hey Casey.

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Thank you so much for bringing us out here.

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So the video was really intriguing and that's just one of many that you've captured.

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From that night on we were pretty hot and heavy into sky watching pretty regular now.

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I have my camcorder by the back door charged up all the time ready to go.

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Good man.

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I know it's difficult to say what it was definitively. Could you tell us what it wasn't?

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It wasn't jets, wasn't flares, wasn't helicopters.

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Because I mean at that time of night in Dublin, it kind of like a ghost town after about eight or nine at night every night.

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So you'll hear anything. You'll hear airplanes from a long ways on.

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This didn't have any noise whatsoever to it.

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And it got nearly right over the top of my house.

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So if I was going to hear something I would have heard it, you know.

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It was just, it was really strange. I wouldn't even guess what it could be. I mean I have no idea.

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Casey's had numerous sightings all over this area.

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So we're going to just go out to the location of the sighting and just get an idea of what's going on in the skies above Stephenville.

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James you can open that case up.

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So Casey you got a rifle with you. What's going on with that?

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Well there's a lot of wild hogs around here and I don't want to be stuck out here with that one.

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Oh boy.

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Wait a minute. If you have the rifle what do we have?

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Harsh language. That's what scares me.

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Alright you guys. Well good luck. Let's hope you spot something.

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So Casey.

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In the video that you showed us.

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Mm-hmm.

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You got the blinking lights and then there's the weird twinkling sort of period.

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Did that look like to your eye the way it looked on the video? Sort of like?

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Pretty much. I tried not to zoom in on it at all. You know try to keep it just like I was seeing it.

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Yeah. I spend a whole like a lot of time nowadays looking up at the sky you know.

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I think if people would just take a little time out of their schedule and look up for a while they might be surprised what they'd see around here.

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I think a lot of people just don't look up at the sky anymore.

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Mm-hmm.

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Creepy in here.

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That's really creepy.

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I was at one horror movie they shot like ten years ago. Blair Wish Project. This kind of reminds me of that.

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Yeah. We don't want to get lost in here. That's for sure.

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It's like pitch black.

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Shh. You hear something?

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Shh.

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Shh.

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What the f*** was that?

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I don't know. They got wild boar out here.

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They're apparently up to 400 pounds.

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Dude, I am not going over there.

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Something's right there.

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Shining light that way. To the left. To the left right there.

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Shh. I can't tell if it's moving away from us or coming at us.

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I'm not kidding. If it charges us I'm going to run my f***ing ass off. I'm serious.

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It's right there, man. It's on the other side of those bushes.

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If it's got babies around it'll charge your ass.

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What was that?

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I don't know what that was.

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I don't know if it was like a grout or a weird howl or something.

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It sounded kind of like a cow that was very upset.

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Yeah. Like getting hurt or something.

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James and Ryder just spent in case we just heard a sort of vaguely animal screaming noise and was wondering if it was you. How are you guys doing over there?

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Well, I would be honest with you. I was a little creeped out by the boar and now I'm just trying to get the hell out of these woods over.

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If by the boar do you mean you had a boar encounter?

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I don't know.

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75% certainty. I mean it was just like right on the other side of the bushes and it sounded big.

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Dude, I was scanning the area.

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Looking for a tree to climb. I mean it was that freaked out, seriously.

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Roger that. Probably a good thing you guys hightailed it. We're going to keep pushing on here. Keep the surprise down on your side.

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Copy.

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Oh good, it opens up.

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What the f*** is that?

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It's changing sizes.

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What are you looking at?

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Wow. Wow.

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Oh, there's really bright in the sky.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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We see you.

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Doesn't it look like there's a light on the horizon right there?

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What the f*** is that?

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It's blinking. Look, look, look, look, look. Do you see that? It's going in and out, in and out.

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Blinking down like this.

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Alright, let's see what we got here.

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I don't know what it is, but I guarantee you that's not a planet.

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Now it's like three little dots in a straight line. This thing's really weird.

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Ryder for Ben and Casey.

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Ryder, this is Ben and Casey. Go ahead.

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What's your guys' 20?

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I believe southeast of your position.

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Our small camera and binoculars were picking up this really strange object.

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It kind of looks like it goes from being a full circle or like an award.

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Kind of like an oblong shape.

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That's wild. We're going to head over to your way and take a look at what you're looking at.

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One light broken into three and back to one. I mean, that sounds an awful lot like what you were talking about, right?

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It is.

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Casey, I found the clearing.

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Okay.

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Hey guys, we're here.

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So we've seen this thing go on and off in kind of a strange way and kind of glow.

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It definitely seems terrestrial to me, but there are a lot of properties to it that don't match just a regular light.

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Let's ask the expert here, Casey, what does that look like to you?

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Does that look like any of the other settings you've had or does that look more...

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It's like color in the shape, yeah.

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So far our investigation is only deepening the mystery.

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Our next step is to meet with an ex-military official to talk to him about this mass sighting.

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We're going to meet a colonel in the military who is clearly and unequivocally stated that UFOs are real.

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That's very exciting to me and it's not every day that we get the opportunity to meet someone at this stature with such a bold position on UFOs.

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Don't forget, UFOs are just that. They're unidentified. It's anything that's unidentified in our airspace.

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Even the stealth fighter was considered a UFO before its existence was disclosed by the Air Force.

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I'm very, very much like Ford to me and this guy.

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Yeah, he sounds right up your alley, James. I think you guys are going to be BFFs.

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Colonel Alexander says he was part of this unofficial panel that investigated UFOs.

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And he had access to information the public doesn't and we want to get his perspective.

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If you could stand at a podium on world television to talk about UFOs, what would you say?

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Simple. UFOs are real and we need to make it permissible for scientists to study them without risking their career or livelihood.

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That's a pretty bold statement from someone in your position.

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Well, it's bold, it's accurate.

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The problem is that we do not allow our best and brightest minds to get involved in it without great personal risk.

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The body of evidence says something's there. Now what that is is a totally different question.

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Some people have claimed that we're moving from a period of small-scale individual sightings to larger-scale mass sightings.

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Would you agree with that?

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There have been mass sightings kind of all along. It can take a go back to Washington in the 50s.

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We do know mass hysteria does play a role. We have to understand those sorts of things. It is contagious.

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But when you start correlating that with photographic data that can be substantiated,

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then you start to get cases in which the hard data say there was a physical event that took place at that time and place.

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What about the sighting in Stephenville, Texas, or Dublin, Texas area?

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In my view, it's the high on credibility list.

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What's interesting about this is the number of witnesses that seem to be pretty high quality that have come forward and said,

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definitely saw something. We're talking a mile across. You can see the structure.

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And again, we're talking big.

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Do we have anything like that in your opinion?

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No.

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That there was a phenomena going on, I think, is undeniable.

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So according to Jonathan Alexander, there's a lot of weight that you can put behind mass sightings

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because it allows you to cross-reference people's stories and tease out what the truth is.

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So with that in mind, we're going to the Stephenville airport.

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We're going to meet with another one of the witnesses we met at the town hall meeting, Steve Allen,

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and we're going to talk to him about the sighting he had at his friend's house at Sunset.

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Hey, how y'all doing? Steve Allen.

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Steve Allen is a pilot and pilots are better trained observers to know what's conventional and unconventional.

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It flies around in our airspace.

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I completely trust his credibility to describe to me what he saw that night.

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From the very beginning, can you talk us through your sighting and what you saw?

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Sure. This was not a shooting star out in the atmosphere. It was up close and personal.

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As it came past us, it had seven lights flashing across the back.

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Never seen any lights that color nor that size of the lights was the size of a small pickup truck.

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And they all stayed at the same altitude and the same distance.

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How big was it, Steve?

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My estimations is it's about a half a mile wide and a mile long. It was giant.

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Even for pilots, it's really hard to determine a distant object's size, its altitude, its true distance, particularly at night.

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So we're going to send a couple planes up and test the concept that maybe the mass sighting here in Stephenville was a case of mistaken identification.

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Can multiple planes flying in formation be mistaken for a single object?

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Do you see how tightly they're flying?

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I do.

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It looks like two planes almost attached together.

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Witnesses have described the objects that they see as being silent while they move.

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So I'm going to have our planes fly right overhead and see if we can hear them.

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Okay guys, we are in formation. Do you guys copy?

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Copy that. We are tracking you right now on sticks.

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Those guys are tight formation.

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So imagine that this is at night and you've got running lights and beacons.

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And then imagine if one of the two planes peeled away, it would look like there is one object with multiple blinking lights.

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It suddenly becomes two and then it's one again.

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So flying information, our two aircraft look like one single object.

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And if this is something we can see during the day, it's not hard to imagine multiple aircraft flying information at night.

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It could be mistaken as one single craft.

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If they were coming towards you with their lights on, it could theoretically look like one craft.

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These guys are good pilots.

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Do you guys copy? Copy that.

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We are at C-40 closing fast.

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Love to.

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Okay, copy that.

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Van, they are coming in directly from the south at about 50 degrees.

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What's your altitude, Ryder?

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We are at 7,000 feet above the ground.

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Okay, so we've got 4,000 feet above the ground.

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Listen to how loud these planes are right now.

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And C-Val said he couldn't hear a thing and it was up close and personal.

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At 4,000 feet, the plane's made a lot of noise. There's no mistaking that.

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So while we were able to show that multiple aircraft flying information can be mistaken as a single object,

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you're not going to have an aircraft come right over you and not make a sound.

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Alright Ryder, I think we've got a mission accomplished.

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Why don't you bring our info and landing? Over.

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Okay guys, they're coming in.

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They're back.

365
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Wow, what is going on?

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Four knots in a row.

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Okay guys, they're coming in.

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Ah!

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And I just lost my lunch.

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Now that was one hell of a flyby over.

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Looks like Ryder got a dose for vitamin G today.

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Touchdown.

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Roger James, the Ryder has landed.

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Even with our aerial tests complete, we still have loads and loads of questions.

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So our next step is to meet with a man who says he's videotaped an unidentified flying object

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just three months after the mass sighting.

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April of 2008, a man named Mauricio Ruiz captured something in the sky above his neighbor's house.

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It looks almost like a saucer in the sky.

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Almost.

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Very rarely do you have video footage where you have broad daylight, you have points of reference,

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you have something that's clearly in focus.

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So this gives us a lot to go on and I'm very much looking forward to meeting this guy and finding out more.

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Burgers flew across the screen right there.

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There's a lot of context to this, really able to get an idea of what size this is.

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Unfortunately, it looks kind of small.

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The interesting thing about this video is that it was shot just three months after the mass sighting.

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But it doesn't really resemble the object that the people in Stephenville say that they saw.

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Were there any other witnesses?

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As of right now, he says no one else has come forward.

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I'd be interested to see what he thinks the dimensions are.

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So right off the bat, I'm a little suspicious about this video because the geometry looks all wrong to me.

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So I really want to talk to the guy who shot it and see what it looked like to him.

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That particular there, remember, it was kind of misty, foggy.

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But the object itself, something I'd never seen before, it cut me off guard and I just couldn't relate to it.

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And then something just came to me.

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I go get my video camera.

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So I ran as fast as I could, proved something what I have seen.

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When I started videotaping, I just froze.

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It made me nervous. It made me nervous.

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It was something that you don't see every day.

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Kane seemed to even get what kind of material it was made of.

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Then as I was videotaping, the object started slowly, slowly moving and eventually started to fade out.

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Did it slowly move out?

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Slowly get farther and farther away.

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That is correct. He never moved fast. He kept the same pace.

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So did it look like the object disappeared behind a cloud bank?

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It just faded out of my eyesight.

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To me, it's still clearly within the realm of possibility that this is a little remote controlled craft that somebody is flying around the neighborhood.

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What do you honestly think you captured on film?

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Well, what's on the film is a flying object that was hovering, that was noiseless.

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I know somebody has to be behind it.

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I just don't know if it's a human hand or an alien.

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This is a fairly serious guy. He's a family man. He's a church going.

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He feels at least he's captured a genuine UFO on camera.

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Since the 2008 sightings were such big news, Ben and I decided to kick it old school and do some research at the local library.

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You start pouring through articles and I'll start looking at the histories and we'll see what we can dig up.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And even though there were widespread UFO sightings around the time of the incident, not many people got close to the unidentified object.

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So James is going to meet up with Ricky Sorals, who we met at the town hall to get more details on the craft that he claims to have been just 300 feet away from.

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So tell me about your sighting. What happened?

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I took off on my place to go hunting.

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I was trying to get to this fence line before the sun went down. I had about 45 minutes left.

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I get tangled up in some briars. As I'm trying to get untangled, I look up and I'm like, what in the world is this?

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I actually lift my rifle, look at it to the scope.

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James, I saw something so big that you could probably land an airplane on it.

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When it's lightning, you can see the dark object. It's like a cigar shape. The length is about 3 to 4 feet long.

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We've been tracking it for about 3-4 minutes now.

428
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So tell me about your sighting. What did you see?

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James, I saw something so big that you could probably land an airplane on it. I've never seen anything like it.

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Tell me what it's like, a piece of tin that's weathered or barn wood, that color gray.

431
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I'm a machinist and I've welded my whole life, but it's not like any metal I'd seen before.

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No seams, no bolts, no welds.

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I'm watching it. I actually saw it take off and being flat 300 foot above me to nothing.

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If I would have blinked, I would have missed it.

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I've investigated a lot of UFO cases and anyone who's gotten close enough to actually report what the actual texture of the craft, to me, is a really rare sighting.

436
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If I would have heard something like this and hadn't seen it myself, I'd say, yeah, they're full of doggy ditty.

437
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But since it's happened to me, it's something that's very real to me and I know what I saw.

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Why are you coming forward?

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I don't find out what it is.

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Death records, cemetery, public library.

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With James out following up with Ricky Sorrell's, Ben and I were doing research at the local library.

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We're hoping to comb through some newspaper articles to see if we can dig up any new information or leads to follow up on.

443
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I've got something.

444
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What'd you find?

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June 20th, 1891, check this out.

446
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Quite a little excitement was created last Saturday night by the meteoric explosion near Wasson and Miller's gin.

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Wow.

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It was more than 300 feet in the air before bursting.

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It was utterly impossible to obtain an accurate account of the dimensions and general appearance of this rare phenomenon.

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Preceding the explosion, witnesses reported seeing strange glowing white lights in the sky.

451
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
That sounds like the 2008 sighting.

452
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Also discovering a number of peculiar stones and pieces of metal, all of a lead in color.

453
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Wow.

454
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Very little time was spent in scientific investigations.

455
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
No one studied what it was.

456
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000
No.

457
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
There could be other debris still out there.

458
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:38,000
On the night of June 20th, 1891, the residents of Stephenville, Texas reported strange lights throughout the sky.

459
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Then, hours later, an object exploded, emitting debris all over the Grist Mill.

460
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000
The locals say that the ground was charred and that there was this gray, metal-like debris everywhere.

461
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Did you actually read the article or interpretation of the article?

462
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
No, it was the actual article from 1891.

463
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
1891?

464
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Yeah.

465
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,000
In 1891, there weren't any man-made flying objects, period, which leads me to believe that whatever was seen and reported

466
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
could have been something from another world.

467
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
I'm interested to get out there.

468
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,000
This is certainly the oldest legend crash site that I've ever been tasked with investigating.

469
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Let me ask you really quickly, Ben.

470
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,000
So if something did crash there as reported, do you think 100 years later there'll be physical evidence?

471
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
I mean, these are very specific sorts of things that you can look for.

472
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Granted, it's been a long time, but lead and appearance metal fragments, the article that we found describes a fire in the area.

473
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
We can look for evidence of old burns and soil horizons.

474
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,000
We can look for evidence of topographic depressions in the area that might indicate an impact of some kind.

475
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000
I think it's a chance for us to get our hands dirty and find some physical evidence.

476
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
So we're heading out to the old Grist Mill.

477
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000
We already know we're going to be fighting daylight, and it's probably going to be a little dangerous poking around out there in the dark,

478
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,000
but we have to do everything we can to collect any evidence at all to let us know what really happened out here.

479
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Alright. This looks like the topographic low point here.

480
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,000
You know, what can we look for? We can look to corroborate different elements of the story.

481
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:22,000
We're looking for metallic fragments, we'll look for any ash deposits that might indicate an old historical fire in this area.

482
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,000
James, why don't we have you start over by the mill, do a surface recon with the metal detector.

483
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Start there, work your way towards us.

484
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Alright, well, night's a-wastin'. Let's get to it.

485
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:47,000
According to the newspaper article from 1891, there was an explosion of some unknown flying object,

486
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:55,000
and it exploded into little bits of metal, and according to geologist Ben, whatever it was,

487
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,000
there'll be evidence of it 100 years later. So that is what we're looking for.

488
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:12,000
If you want to start with the radiation survey, I can start picking out prime locations for soil sampling.

489
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,000
A radiation survey could detect evidence if a nuclear reactor had been nearby.

490
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Sounds great.

491
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Right now, I'm setting up our preliminary survey grid.

492
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000
The total station is just getting a sense for the area right now,

493
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,000
and we'll use this to be able to set up our reference grid so we know where we're going to be getting data.

494
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,000
So we're getting a reading.

495
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I plant this flag for the truth.

496
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000
It's a beautiful night tonight. Completely clear sky.

497
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,000
It's pretty hard to keep your eyes downward when it's such a clear sky tonight.

498
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000
We're going to see anything tonight. It'll be a really, really great night.

499
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Lots of regular background radiation. Not really much more than that.

500
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:24,000
You know, this rain really put a damper on the survey because water does not conduct well with radiation.

501
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
It pretty much blocks it.

502
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Rider for Ben?

503
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Rider, this is Ben. Go ahead.

504
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,000
This supposed crater or depression over here, this thing is almost ankle deep with water.

505
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Well, the best we can hope for is a relative bump in case there's a hot spot left over, but right now we're just covering our bases.

506
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Copy that. I'll come over and help you a little bit.

507
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
In for it.

508
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
This is a really old mill site.

509
00:38:49,000 --> 00:39:00,000
I'm getting just multiple readings right here.

510
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I'm not going over there. Dude, get the f*** out of here. Are you kidding me right now?

511
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Oh, great. Is this the same bore that was out there following me last night?

512
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Dude, that was something big.

513
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:54,000
I'm not going anywhere near that f***ing area. No way. There's something in there.

514
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:15,000
See, plenty of stars. Not much else.

515
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Oh, I mean, it is so strange what a little shake of your hands can do.

516
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,000
It literally looks like I've got an orb dancing around the screen and I'm trying to hold it perfectly still.

517
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Oh, it's really strange.

518
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Hey, Ben. Yeah. What's that?

519
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Come here. What the hell is that?

520
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000
Oh. Do you see that?

521
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Yeah. You know what that looks like to me?

522
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000
What? That almost looked like...

523
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
What the f*** is that?

524
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,000
That looks like a f***ing flying saucer.

525
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
What the hell is that?

526
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Look at those lights.

527
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
You know what that looks like to me?

528
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
What?

529
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
That almost looked like...

530
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
What the f*** was that?

531
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
That was cool.

532
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
That looks like a f***ing flying saucer.

533
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Whatever that f***ing was, I don't know. I don't know what f*** that was.

534
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
I might need to play back this footage.

535
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Like, I'll do my due diligence. I'll get as much evidence as I can.

536
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
But...

537
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
But you're sold.

538
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000
No, I'm not sold. I'm not sold. I'm not sold.

539
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
No, no, no. No, that's good.

540
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
I reacted to it too.

541
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,000
It was like looking right where you were shooting and it was this little flare-looking thing.

542
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
I want to play this back. I want to play this back.

543
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
I don't know what the hell that just was.

544
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Rider for James, get over here.

545
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
I just got the best footage.

546
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Over and out of them on my way.

547
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Hey, what's going on guys?

548
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Alright, listen, I was tracking something blinking right all of a sudden.

549
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Poo!

550
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Hold on, let me just cue it up.

551
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Check it out.

552
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000
So, there's this light I'm following. Get ready for right in here.

553
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Holy f***, weird.

554
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Really weird.

555
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Listen, I'm a sculliver, right?

556
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Like, skeptic believer, but f*** it.

557
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
That I just saw something really strange.

558
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
You got some awesome video footage.

559
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
I was just excited that Ben was excited about it.

560
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Hey, it was weird looking.

561
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,000
That's my barometer. If he's excited about it, you know it's intriguing.

562
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
I can't wait to see that on a big screen.

563
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
I agree. I agree.

564
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
We continue to investigate around the old mill for several more hours,

565
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
but to me, the investigation was done when I shot that video.

566
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
We headed home and re-examined the evidence,

567
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000
focusing on two really remarkable things.

568
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
We've talked to multiple eyewitnesses.

569
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,000
We had that entire town hall meeting, and it really sounds like they saw something.

570
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
It had four sets of lights on it.

571
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000
And they moved beyond speed that we comprehend.

572
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Clearly something truly inexplicable occurred over the skies of Dublin.

573
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,000
After having met with Leroy Gaten, Steve Allen, Ricky Sorrells,

574
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:09,000
I am absolutely convinced that the 2008 Sighting Over Texas was a bonafide UFO.

575
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Okay, Ben, pull up my video here.

576
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
So you were pushed pretty far in the zoom, right?

577
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Not all the way. I'm not always there.

578
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Because I remember, like, there was a street right here.

579
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000
There were street lights right here.

580
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
The street lights up here.

581
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Considering all the evidence we've seen so far here in Texas,

582
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000
I think there are more conventional explanations for the video.

583
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000
I'm not convinced that there's anything extraterrestrial going on here.

584
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
I was compelled when I was out there.

585
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000
I thought it was amazing that I captured it.

586
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Coming back here, I still am struggling to figure out what this is.

587
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000
That looks like a f***ing flying saucer.

588
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:51,000
For the first time in my life, I really, really am tempted to say that I believe UFOs exist.